The shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin by a self-proclaimed vigilante named George Zimmerman has sparked national outrage in the U.S.  Zimmerman was following the unarmed Trayvon and after some kind of altercation and shot him to death in cold blood.  What is stoking anger in the States is the fact that Zimmerman has not even been arrested, much less charged with the killing.   In addition tapes show that before he killed him, Zimmerman referred to Trayvon as a f…g coon.

Is this a racially motivated hate crime.?

What do you think would have happened if the killer was black and Trayvon were white.

Should George Zimmerman be arrested and charged?

What do you think?


I regret that I have away from the blog for so long.  It was owing to a long stretch of the flu and a bout with depression.  Many thanks to all of you who wished me a speedy recovery.  I hope to be able to do the blog most days.  Thanks to you all again.


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    Welcome back, Neil!

    Message from Janus: she regrets she will no longer be able to participate if she has to link her namr.

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    Your facts are not accurate, Neil, from what is known. I’m not sayi g Zimmerman is innocent but we won’t know until all the facts are in.

    For example, yesterday, ANC News did an enhancement of the 911 tape with the latest high tech equipment and they are backtracking on what they originally concluded; Zimerman said “fucking cold”, not “fucking coon”.

    Secondly, it is not certain Trayvon was killed in “cold blood”. Evidence from eye witnesess suggests that Trayvon cold-cocked Zimmerman and was on top of him beating him senseless when Zimmerman shot him. There is, apparently, a medical report done on the scene attesting to Zimmerman’s injuries consistent with this claim as well as a video tape showing lacerations on his head (the same video tape, now enhanced, that his detractors originally said showed no signs of injury).

    Al Sharpton, the race-baiting anti-Semite racist is leading the charge against Zimmerman. This should be the biggest indicator that there is more to this story than meets the eye. Remember Tawana Brawley?

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    Neil McKenty Says:


    Thanks for your good wishes. I don’t understand what you mean a bout Janus.

  4. 4

    This is what she asked me to pass on to you:

    “Looks like Neil is finally back in action. But he’s got his blog set up for signing in with linked signatures, and I do not link any of my stuff to anything else. Ever. Looks like I won’t be able to comment to him anymore.”

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    Barbara Says:

    Good to have you back, Neil.

    And Tony, I would be just as suspicious of so-called witnesses as you are of the Reverend Al. Zimmerman could have been brought in for questioning, at least.

    I don’t know what Janus is talking about … I never include a link and I can still post here. If I had to link, I wouldn’t post either.

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    1) Zimmerman WAS brought in for questioning…in handcuffs. Didn’t you see the video?

    2) Why would you be suspicious of an eye witness? Not only does the witness corroborate — independantly — everything Zimmerman says but so, too, do his injuries (and there’s a medical report, apparently, done on him at the scene). That’s probably why they let him go.

    3) you really should educate yourself about Sharpton. Once you do, you’ll realize you cast unfair dispersions on an innocent eye witness. Comparing him to Sharpton is one of the biggest insults you can bestow on a person.

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    Barbara Says:

    You are correct, Tony. He was taken in for questioning. My bad.

    As for suspecting an eye witness — eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable and can conflict with one another. This may be an accurate one, but no one should rely on a single eyewitness on their own without corroborating evidence. Medical evidence could well corrobate the witness. That’s the job of the police and the legal system.

    As for the Rev Al, I did not mean to say he should be trusted unquestioningly. I just meant that he should be subject to no less scrutiny than the eyewitness.

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    Neil McKenty Says:

    George Zimmerman was in custodyfor less than an hour. Is that the same as being arrested?

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    No matter what happens, there will be suspicion on all sides.
    I don’t think that “all the proof” in the world will change either side.

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    The more evidence comes in, the more it seems as if Zimmerman is innocent.

    Here is my take on what happened: I think Zimmerman — who was, I understand, not “on duty” as a volunteer community watchman when he saw Trayvon but on his way somewhere — saw a suspicious male who was nota resident and therefore not familiar to him and then he did what he was supposed to do: he called the police to report this suspicious person.

    Trayvon, sadly, belongs to a demographic that commits, disproportionately, many times more crime than their percentage of the population: black males between the age of 18-34 (Trayvon was 17 but at 6’2″ looked older). They represent about 2% of the population of the U.S. but for some categories of crimes, this demographic commits as much as 50% of the crime.

    So Trayvon was racially profiled by Zimmerman (not a crime in and of itself…indeed, Jessie Jackson has admitted to profiling young blacks himself). Zimmerman followed him while on the phone reporting to 911 and, he claims, stopped following him when told to by the dispatcher and was returning to his car when Trayvon came up to him (pissed off that this guy had been following him), they exchanged words, and Trayvon decked him, got on top of him, and started pummelling him…at which point Zimmerman, in fear of his life, pulled out the gun and shot him.

    Trayvon was pissed because he wasn’t doing anything wrong; Zimmerman was, it seems, doing everything by the book and doing what he was told…but Trayvon just may have committed the mistake of hurling the first blow…in which case he was not innocent as so many make him out to be but in the process of committing a battery when he was shot to death.

    The evidence appears to back this up; if it doesn’t once it all comes to light, then Zimmerman risks being found guilty of something (I doubt second degree murder) but something); if it does, gets off and there are race riots.

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    If you want the real poop on this whole thing, go to youtube and search “dershowitz zimmerman” and see what uber-liberal Alan Dershowitz has to say.

    He says the second-degree murder charge is so weak that it was unethical for the prosecutor to have brought it and that any judge should throw the case out.

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    I can’t see any reason why a community “guard” would carry a gun and under what circumstances would a person answer a punch with a shot.

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    Littlepatti writes:

    ” I can’t see any reason why a community “guard” would carry a gun and under what circumstances would a person answer a punch with a shot.”

    1) he was carrying a gun because, thankfully, the law allowed hom to.

    2) I don’t think there are any circumstances under which “a punch” should be answered with a shot…but this is, apparently, not one of those circumstances. According to Zimmerman and, apparently, an eye witness, there was a punch and continual pummelling of Zimmerman by Martin. We shall see at trial whether the forensics, science, and evidence backs up this telling of events. If it does, I say: thank God Zimmerman had a gun to defend himself; if not, then a conviction may be appropriate.

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    Heidi Gulatee Says:

    If you carry a gun you are more likely to think that a punch needs to be answered by shooting the person throwing the punch. Otherwise it would only be a boxing match. Zimmerman is young enough to defend himself without resorting to shooting the teenager. At least I read that he is 28 years old.

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    Heidi wrures:

    “If you carry a gun you are more likely to think that a punch needs to be answered by shooting the person throwing the punch. Otherwise it would only be a boxing match. Zimmerman is young enough to defend himself without resorting to shooting the teenager.”

    1) the eye witness says Martin was on top of Zimmerman pummelling him; Zimmerman’s injuries are, apparently, consistent with this. If true, and Zimmerman didn’t initiate the physical contact, why on Earth shouldn’t he use the gun to defend himself?

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    Here some updates on George Zimmerman:

    1) We now know that he WAS cut rather profusely on the head;

    2) NBC, with bias, edited 911 transcripts that made Zimmerman out to be a racist;

    3) Unedited 911 tapes show that he said “okay” when it was suggested to him that he need not follow Martin;

    4) Take a look at the following article from Reuters:

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    Margarida Says:

    Starting with repeal of Stand Your Ground and Castle Doctrine laws. The next step will be to use the inbtevaile rise in violent crime rates as an excuse to repeal Concealed Carry.I really wonder about the probability of this sequence. It helps that I live in a state where concealed carry (of any sort, but it happens to be shall issue with all other US localities’ licenses being recognized) is quite new, 2004, and where we have to assume we have a duty to retreat and our Castle Doctrine was judicially nullified (the which Missouri uses for upper level court seats is truly horrible). Nonetheless, at least in the culturally Southern SW part of the state we have a strong self-defense culture.I suspect it depends on whether the prosecutors use the absence of these two doctrines abusively, plus there’s a big difference between removing two rights most gun owners will never need and removing something that many gun owners use every day. The latter will be a lot harder, I’m sure.

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