IS SUICIDE PREVENTABLE?

Every day in Canada there are an average of 10 suicides.  Of these 10 about two are women and eight are  men.  Some kind of depression is endemic to all suicides.  Women are about twice as likely as men to suffer from suicide but tend to be less “successfull”   Statistics tell us that in women there are 20 attempts for every completed suicide while in men the ratio is 4:1.

The principal reason more men that women die by suicide  is that men do not seek help  and spiral into despair, hoplessness and self-harm.

Have you ever known a person who  seriously thought about suicide?

Have you ever known a person who comitted suiside?

What are some of the signs of an impending suicide?

Is suicide preventable?

What do you think?

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11 Comments »

  1. 1
    Trev Says:

    A couple of factoids popped into my head while reading the blog.
    I read somewhere that:
    Sweden has the most suicides per capita, worldwide.
    Quebec has the most suicides in Canada.
    There are no suicides in muslim countries.

    Could these statistics all boil down to actual reporting of suicides, and it is the swedes who top the honesty pile?

  2. 2
    Neil McKenty Says:

    Trev,

    Are you suggesting that Statistics Canada is nothing but a lying machine?
    What is the point?

  3. 3

    It may imply that Muslim countries do not report suicide for any number of cultural & religious reasons.

    I haven’t known anyone who committed suicide.
    It’s a cry for attention, reprisal, anger, depression.
    In retrospect there seem to be signals.

    I’m going to straddle a fence on this one.
    I think that SOME suicides are preventable and SOME are inevitable.

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    Barbara Says:

    Chill, Neil. Trev is not slamming Canada, he is just indicating that the true numbers of those attempting and committing suicide are not easy to obtain. For example, careless driving leading to one’s death could be a form of suicide, but would not be reported as such. And it IS possible that other countries do SOME things better than Canada does.

    I have known someone who committed suicide. He was not stable and behaved oddly aggressively at times. He told me once of problems associated with his birth that followed him throughout life — he was bipolar, I believe. He was promoted and I had been worried that the added stresses would not be good for him. When colleagues came into my office to break the terrible news, they asked me if I had heard what happened to J. and I replied asking if he had committed suicide. They were astonished and yet, he had been leaving clues with his male drinking buddies for some time — like appropriate knots and rope to use in hanging oneself. How did they not take it as a warning???? I will never understand. He had several children, one under a year old.

    One of my students attempted suicide. Her parents told me. I do not know what triggered it, but I did all I could to ease her academic stresses while maintaining her privacy. She pulled out of it and has done well in life.

    So, yes, at least in some cases, suicides are broadcasted in advance and may be preventable.

  5. 5
    Trev Says:

    Another factoid, I think I read it in one of those swedish mystery novels so popular just now, is that many suicides are in fact murders made to look like suicides.

    Not sure what the point is, just thoughts!

  6. 6

    A good point: Murder disguised as suicide.
    Maybe, suicides disguised as accidents, and acts of mercy killing, and what about smokers? Death defying sports? Risky behaviour?
    I’m sure that it keeps insurance companies on their toes.

  7. 7
    jim Says:

    Many years ago in a study about suicide rates around the world, it elicited the fact that the reason for the high suicide rate in Sweden was because the government was doing too much for the people from cradle to grave.
    Quebec has the highest suicide rates amongst the provinces, not Canada. It was thought at the time that it was partly caused by the very high unemployment rate.
    When it comes to Muslim countries, when one straps high explosives to their bod and they press the button that reads “shortcut to 70 virgins” it is not considered a suicide.
    I think one has to be very brave or temporarily mentally sick to commit suicide. I think there are many people walking around who would do the deed if it were not for the fact that a lot of pain would be inflicted on their loved ones. I’ve often wondered why most hospitals locate the mental wards on the third or fourth floors. I knew someone who took the big dive from the fourth on July fourth. He lived, but his legs were driven partly up into his torso. I waited until he got out of the hospital to ask him what was he thinking about on his flight down to ground zero. He said “I didn’t think it was such a good idea”.

  8. 8

    Thanks Jim. Another thought he may have had on the way down…”so far so good”.

  9. 9
    Trev Says:

    To follow-up on the suicide disguised as murder idea, I saw an interesting first-person mock-drama account on television about a murderer called the Trinitarian Murderer who would follow a routine where, as well as more traditional murders, he would force someone to commit suicide by jumping off a power building in Florida. Seems far-fetched but I always remember my aunt warning me to stay away from the edge of the platforms on the London Underground as there were people who would succumb to their dark side and push you onto the tracks as the train rushed in!

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    zadugar Says:

    most of the men are in a kind of mind set where the womens are varely negligible. As per the Canadian statistics the same thing is applicable in all over the world but in a Country like India there is queit opposite in the mentality and the mortality will be the opposite as per the Statistics of Canada. But the mens has to be alert in the mid set of not to sucide.

  11. 11
    Trev Says:

    Zadugar – I agree that suicide is not a good thing for men or women. How are the huge changes in India affecting the society? Cheers


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