SHOULD THE U.S. CONGRESS HONOUR MICHAEL JACKSON?

Democratic leaders in Congress are trying toquash a resolution honouring Michael Jackson.  Nany Pelosi says she fears it would produce a contentious debate that would detract from Jackson’s legacy.  Nancy says individual congressman can praise Jackson any time from the floor.  “I don’t think it is necessary for us to have a resolution.”

On the other side Congressman Peter King hs called Jackson a low-life” and a “perv ert”.  Incidentally, Montreal author Ian Halperin, who has a book on Jackson coming out next Tuesday, says flatly that Jackson never sexually molested children.

Meanwhile, the Jackson  circus continues.  His father Joe claims he was murdered.

Should congress honour Michael Jackson?

What do you think?

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24 Comments »

  1. 1

    Members of Quebec’s National Assembly are always introducing “feel good” resolutions about this or that good samaritan or societal organisation. Par for the course.

    Then there are the “Wednesday” motions. These are the ones in which important matters of the day are debated and discussed. The rules of the assembly strictly regulate how they are debated and when they can be introduced.

    I have no idea whether the proposed Jackson resolution for the U.S. Congress is more like the former or the latter. If the former, who cares? Let it go forward.

    If it is like the latter, then that is another thing and a pop star’s death doesn’t warrant the time and attention of such an august body.

    Of course, I’m saying that because I’m quite indifferent to Jackson and his music. Had it been a resolution about John Lennon or George Harrison of the Beatles after their deaths I probably would have been on the front lines demanding that the resolution go forward.

  2. 2
    Chimera Says:

    On what basis does Peter King call Jackson a lowlife and a pervert? Would King’s secret life pass muster with his own critics, I wonder?

    But for now, I think Pelosi is probably closer to being right than anyone else. Leave it alone for a few years, and then come back and revisit the idea. Too much emotion being whipped up right now.

    I don’t get the idea of non-binding resolutions, anyway. If they’re just time-fillers, without any real impact, they’re a waste of taxpayers’ money. Stop tiddling around and get back to work, dammit!

    Tony, Michael Jackson may not be your cup of tea (mine neither), but he was, in his way, just as important to the world of music as John Lennon and George Harrison, just a generation later.

  3. 3

    Chimera asks:

    On what basis does Peter King call Jackson a lowlife and a pervert?

    On the following bases:

    1) Jackson was indicted and brought to criminal trial on charges of sexual molestation of minors;

    2) Jackson, as a matter of public record, squashed a potential criminal trial 15 years earlier by paying off $20 million to a child so that he wouldn’t testify regarding alleged molestation of said child;

    3) Jackson appearing on a Martin Bashir TV special earlier in this decade and brazenly telling the world that it was okay for non-relative adult males to share the same bed with minors.

    4) Sundry other weird behaviours.

    5) Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

  4. 4
    jim Says:

    The highest civilian award that congress can vote on and award is the Congressional Gold Medal. I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to be awarded this medal as they would be consorting with a draft dodger by the name of John Wayne who played the role of many heroes in the armed services in cinema. John Huston once asked Clint Eastwood to show John Wayne how to salute as Wayne had his thumb in his own eye. As Groucho once said “I wouldn’t want to be a member of a club………………..”

  5. Jackson had a few good tunes, We Are the World will probably stay as a classic…but one glorious tune does not warrant so much attention. The guy was a psychological basket case. In the name of basic humanity let him rest in peace and vanish into blissfull oblivion.

  6. 6
    Chimera Says:

    Tony…

    1) Jackson was acquitted on all charges that were not dropped. That makes King potentially liable for libel. And anyone else who propagates his thinking.

    2) Molestation disproved. And I would have paid to make it go away, as well. Being a classic introvert, I completely and totally understand the need for privacy and control over my own environment. Jackson did no more than I expected him to do. That you can’t understand it is not his fault nor mine.

    3) Step-daddies, uncles, godparents, and babysitters do it all the time. He did not have sex with children. Problem with that? Take it up with the parents of America.

    4) Everybody has sundry and other wierd behaviors, even you. Want to be judged by the rest of the world on them? How about we sneak pictures of you doing wierd stuff onto the internet and put strange and misleading captions to them and turn your life upside down with it?

    5) Balls. I can make fire-less smoke out of common household ingredients. Yellow journalists do it all the time. And people who want to believe only the worst about other people — for whatever reasons — pay them to do just that.

    Shame on you, Tony.

  7. 7

    Shame for what, Chimera?

    I didn’t say nor do I personally believe that Jackson molested anyone.

    You asked why King said what he said and I responded to your quesation, speculating why I felt he said what he said.

    And, no, you are wrong when you say that “Step-daddies, uncles, godparents, and babysitters” that have, in the past, been accused of being child molesters, are allowed to sleep with children that are not related to them. What friggin’ planet are you from where that is allowed and is considered acceptable behaviour?

    Indeed, if that’s acceptable behaviour to you, I suggest you’re the one deserving of “shame” and I’d really like to know if there’s anyone reading this blog who agrees with you on this point.

    Jackson deserved all the negativity (including the indictment and criminal trial of which he was ultimately acquited of) that came his way for the wanton and — I’ll repeat it again — brazen way he got on TV and announced to the world his prediliction for sleeping with children not his own.

  8. 8

    Chimera wrote:

    Jackson was acquitted on all charges that were not dropped. That makes King potentially liable for libel. And anyone else who propagates his thinking.

    Well, let Jackson’s estate try suing King and we’ll see what a jury will say.

  9. 9
    Chimera Says:

    “Shame for what, Chimera?

    I didn’t say nor do I personally believe that Jackson molested anyone.”

    So you didn’t. My apologies for misreading you.

    However, the way you listed all King’s supposed reasons for libelling Jackson made me think that you agree with him.

    “…you are wrong when you say that “Step-daddies, uncles, godparents, and babysitters” that have, in the past, been accused of being child molesters, are allowed to sleep with children that are not related to them.”

    That is not what I said at all. Misreading seems to be contagious, hm?

  10. 10

    Chimera:

    Please, then, explain what you meant by your “Step-daddies” comment which I misread.

  11. 11
    Chimera Says:

    I did not say anything at all about any of the adults I mentioned having been ” in the past, been accused of being child molesters.”

    Fact is, lots of male non-relatives (and even some relatives) allow children to sleep on them or beside them when they are in charge of those children and the children need to sleep. Whether it’s on a bed or a couch or a rug or a tuft of grass, children often feel perfectly safe sleeping near adult males, and for the most part, they are perfectly safe. These men probably feel parental and protective toward the kids. This should be encouraged, should it not? Or are you of the opinion that only women should be allowed to supervise sleeping children?

  12. 12

    Earth to Chimera:

    You may not have said anything about adults being accused of being child molesters in the past but we were talking about Michael Jackson who had.

    That is the subject of this thread so please don’t try and change the subject.

    If after being accused of being a child molester he has the chutzpah to go on TV to be seen by millions of people and brazenly declare that it is okay to sleep with children then whether he was guilty or not of child molestation he showed an incredibly large lack of good judgment in doing so.

  13. 13
    Chimera Says:

    Tony, what is it you don’t get about MJ’s being acquitted on all charges?

    Accused is not convicted. Charges dropped are not convictions. Not. A. Child. Molester.

    It is okay to sleep with children.

    Sleep is not sex.

    What is it you’re not understanding, here?

  14. 14

    Chimera:

    1) people get acquited on charges of which they are guilty all the time. Ever heard of O.J. Simpson?

    2) it is not okay to sleep with children who are not your relatives when you are under suspicion of child molestation and whether you’ve been convicted of child molestation is beside the point. Better safe than sorry and you are all alone on this point in what we refer to as the civilized world.

  15. 15
    Chimera Says:

    I’d repeat what I said, but I’d only be repeating myself, and it doesn’t seem like you’re paying any attention, anyway.

  16. 16
    joe agnost Says:

    Sorry Tony – but you’re wrong on this one.

    That ~you~ think MJ is a child molester means that ~you~ shouldn’t allow ~your~ children to sleep-over there. But many people don’t care if their children sleep with non-relative adults – like watching a movie on a couch for instance with a baby sitter or something.

  17. 17

    Question: “Should Congress honour Michael Jackson?”
    Answer: No.

  18. 18
    Chimera Says:

    Why not?

  19. 19

    Actually, Joe, I’m on record as believing Jackson was not a child molester.

    The discussion was initiated because Chimera was outraged that King felt he was a child molester and couldn’t understand why he felt that way. With my response I attempted to explain why.

    Oh, and if after what Jackson went through and you felt it okay to let your child sleep with him? I suspect that there would be jurisdictions out there that may — just may — deem you to be an unfit parent.

  20. 20
    Chimera Says:

    ExCUSE me, Tony! Where do you get off claiming I’m “outraged” by something when clearly I’m not?

    I am goddam tired of people assuming crap on my behalf. Cut. It. Out.

  21. 21
    Chimera Says:

    And no, that wasn’t “outrage,” either. That was frustration at the absence of courtesy and common politeness.

    I will let you know when I’m outraged. Clear?

  22. 22

    No, not clear.

    If I want to interpret your words as “outraged”, I will.

    Your words are on record, above, for all to see and for all to interpret as they see fit. I see fit to call it “outraged”; if you want to disagree, go right ahead. But considering how much time you invested in commenting on the subject I would say you were more than outraged. You were double, secret, probation outraged.

    Now let me get this straight: I express an opinion — and, I might add, a rationale and well-informed one — and you are frustrated at my alleged absense of courtesy and common politeness. Yet you are entirely willing to let a 50-year-old single man, Michael Jackson, who has been in at least two legal wranglings over his allegedly molesting children, share a bed for 8-10 hours with your innocent children for sleep overs at Never, Never Ranch?

    Have I got it straight?

  23. 23
    Chimera Says:

    About as straight as a corkscrew.

    You didn’t “interpret” my words at all. You characterized me. And you were wrong.

    But keep it up, fella. I’m getting there.

  24. 24

    This seems to be the Tony & Chimera show. Why not just email each other to make argument.


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